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Hi everyone!

For some time now I'm thinking about purchasing a new gaming PC.
I'd like an advice on the build I'm considering:

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(I removed the prices from the list)
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nxfwNN

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI - Z270 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
Storage: ADATA - Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (placeholder)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Super JetStream Video Card
Case: be quiet! - Pure Base 600 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro BOX 64-bit (changed from OEM)

Some of the parts are just placeholders, because I couldn't find the model I was thinking of.
Do you have any suggestions about this build? Please, keep in mind this build is already at the higher end of the budget I'm willing to spend (currently about 1950$ where I live). I'm mainly looking for a way to improve the ratio of performance per dollar.

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Hello Byleth0,


For memory : Same but cas15 3000 for less $  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EI5Z2T6/ref=twister_B01M33CGCY?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

For GPU : Msi 1080 TI Duke (seriously the gain is huge for little more $ and it's super silent)  https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1080-TI-GAMING/dp/B0722YBZGK/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511175526&sr=1-3&keywords=msi%2B1080&th=1

I'd take samsung for the SSD but that's just my personal experience
Windows 10 box ? why ?
Do you really want a windowed panel ? Because the closed one cost less so you might get better components imo.

Otherwise it looks good.

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Thanks for the input.

I wish these were the prices of hardware where I live - compared to amazon the prices here are ridiculous to say the least. Not only the DUKE isn't available here, but the lowest price of the 1080ti is currently 870$ (according to google's currency converter) for the MSI 1080ti ARMOR. Only one 1080ti card is cheaper but it's Gigabyte so I'd rather get MSI. The shop suggested that they will make a "personalized offer" once I send them the specifications but I doubt I'd get this much of a discount.
What's more, the suggested MSI 1080 Gaming X costs 740$ - the same as the price of the 1080ti DUKE on Amazon.

I changed the memory to the ones you suggested. They are expensive here as well: about 240$ instead of the amazon's 160$.

I also plan on moving one of the old SSDs (from the current PC) to the new one. It's Samsung 120GB and it would serve as the OS drive.

I was thinking about the BOX version of Windows so that I can move it freely to another PC when I change the PC next time. Although now that I think about it some more maybe it really isn't necessary as this PC should be good enough for quite some time.

I guess I could ask the shop what would be the cost of the build with these changes. I'd need to select one of the 1080ti variants available.
Currently the build with the MSI 1080TI ARMOR without the discounts would be about 2050$

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Omg where do you live ?? In France it's more expensive then the US but not that much ! :o
The Msi Armor series aren't as good as the Gaming X btw, not very silent and not very well cooled... But still, the performance compared to a normal 1080 will be like 20-25% better.
You won't really get a better performance than a Founder's edition though...

You might also look for the new 1070 ti if price is too high.
Or, Maybe you could wait for Amd Vega ? I don't know if it's close to release or not...

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I live in Poland. All electronics seem to be priced way over the US prices while the salaries are miserable here.

Looking at those differences I am really demotivated to buy anything. Over the past year (or more) I was going to buy a new PC few times now. Of course each time it ended in my decision that it's too expensive and maybe the prices will go down if I wait. Right now I have a feeling that it will end up the same way because the prices simply won't drop (in some cases they even went up). :( Maybe we'll get some good deals during the Black Friday but I won't hold my breath.

I'm not really fond of AMD products. I'll look into the 1070ti as well, although I need to get over the demotivation first.

Thanks again for the help. At least I know that the parts I was considering weren't all that bad picks :)

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I'm not going to be much help I'm afraid. I have been looking into a new system for the past year and my design is motivated by the upcoming revolution is CPUs. I am going to wait until 2020 or 2021 to update as the parts I want do not exist yet.

As to your specs: I am using a 500 GB SSD as drive C and am currently using less than 100 GB.

For storage I use two 1TB drives. They are currently half full.

I am using 8GB DDR RAM and hardly ever top out.

The MSI - Z270 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard needs DDR4-3800+OC memory. So DDR4-3200 would not be a good idea.

The speed of 3.8 Ghz (overclock 4.2 Ghz) should be more than fine for upcoming VR games. I run at 3.2 Ghz and hardly ever have any system problems.

Edited by Cryzeteur

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If I understand the MSI's website with the specs correctly, this motherboard should be able to use 3200 and 3000 memory. Isn't the 3800 simply the maximum available?
When it comes to the RAM size I have 12GB right now and it's pretty heavily used (at the time of writing this text, Task Manager shows only 4GB of memory as available).

As for the storage, your usage seems quite similar to mine. The only problem I have is that partitions on the HDD are set up a bit awkwardly so I am running out of space more than I should. The 240GB SSD would be used for the apps and games that are used frequently. The C drive would be the 120GB SSD that I use right now in my PC.

I'm not sure if I want VR just yet. Maybe in the future though.

@Cryzeteur, how old is your PC if you are willing to wait this long for the new one? Maybe I'm just underestimating my current build, although it struggles with almost every game.

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If your gaming at 1440p or below the parts look fine other than your CPU gonna probably bottleneck the GTX 1080 in next years in DX12 games as they take advantage of 6 cores and above. You said you don't like AMD so i guess the currently best price for performance CPUs Ryzen 1600X and Ryzen 1600 is of no interest to you, i would then suggest the best intel alternative which is a i5-8400.

Edited by TheLazyGrizzly

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1 hour ago, Byleth0 said:

If I understand the MSI's website with the specs correctly, this motherboard should be able to use 3200 and 3000 memory. Isn't the 3800 simply the maximum available?
When it comes to the RAM size I have 12GB right now and it's pretty heavily used (at the time of writing this text, Task Manager shows only 4GB of memory as available).

As for the storage, your usage seems quite similar to mine. The only problem I have is that partitions on the HDD are set up a bit awkwardly so I am running out of space more than I should. The 240GB SSD would be used for the apps and games that are used frequently. The C drive would be the 120GB SSD that I use right now in my PC.

I'm not sure if I want VR just yet. Maybe in the future though.

@Cryzeteur, how old is your PC if you are willing to wait this long for the new one? Maybe I'm just underestimating my current build, although it struggles with almost every game.

I don't think the 3800 is maximum , rather I think it is preferred to achieve the 4.2 GHz overclock speed.

I put all my games on my third drive so that the C: drive is not written to quite so often.

My PC driver install date is June 21, 2006. I am not sure when I built the computer but 11 years old may be about right. A xouple of months ago I compared my performance to modern machines and I could not improve my performance by a significant amount. I always build to last.

Edited by Cryzeteur

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@Cryzeteur, so it's possible that I'm just exaggerating the issue. My PC is really young compared to yours - I got it around 2011 or 2012 (not counting later changes and additions). Maybe then I should wait a bit longer for the purchase. Especially since TheLazyGrizzly made some points that I should really consider.

@TheLazyGrizzly, thank you very much for that. The last thing I want for the new PC is the CPU bottleneck. The PC I'm currently using is probably suffering from a 'too slow CPU' sickness. Maybe I should reconsider the purchase of AMD products after all. It will definitely take some time to decide what I want and need.
And I'm not going to play on 1440p anytime soon. I purchased my first 1080p monitor this year and I'm really happy with it. I don't need anything above that.

At the very least I won't make any hasty decisions with so many things to think about. Thanks everyone. :)

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9 minutes ago, Byleth0 said:

 

@TheLazyGrizzly, thank you very much for that. The last thing I want for the new PC is the CPU bottleneck. The PC I'm currently using is probably suffering from a 'too slow CPU' sickness. Maybe I should reconsider the purchase of AMD products after all. It will definitely take some time to decide what I want and need.
And I'm not going to play on 1440p anytime soon. I purchased my first 1080p monitor this year and I'm really happy with it. I don't need anything above that.

At the very least I won't make any hasty decisions with so many things to think about. Thanks everyone. :)

BTW my CPU is AMD Phenom II X4 970 Processor 3.51 GHz.

It may be old but it was way ahead of its time.

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After considering the Ryzen processors I must admit they are tempting. Thing is the new generation of Intel CPUs looks even more tempting. I guess I'll wait for the newer boards to come out for the Intel CPUs - if I waited that long I can wait a little longer :)

Thanks again for help, everyone! :)

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